Comments on: It's not over until the fat man sings – and he's just cleared his throat http://thusmagazine.com/2009/06/its-not-over-until-the-fat-man-sings-and-hes-just-cleared-his-throat/ because it does not have to be that way Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:55:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John Kelly http://thusmagazine.com/2009/06/its-not-over-until-the-fat-man-sings-and-hes-just-cleared-his-throat/comment-page-1/#comment-262 John Kelly Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:47:40 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=3567#comment-262 good point about Professor jugears, Patrick. I'd completely forgotten. He is actually a man of principle, and believes strongly in holding grudges. I wonder who the stalking horse will be? 70 votes doesn't seem like a lot to me. Brown's hideous claque have relied on fear to keep order in the past, but these turkeys now know they have nothing to lose. My bet is on a vote of no confidence. Johnson would become leader in a contest, then Labour would lose, but by around 150 seats, giving them some sort of chance of regrouping by 2015 or so. good point about Professor jugears, Patrick. I’d completely forgotten. He is actually a man of principle, and believes strongly in holding grudges. I wonder who the stalking horse will be? 70 votes doesn’t seem like a lot to me. Brown’s hideous claque have relied on fear to keep order in the past, but these turkeys now know they have nothing to lose. My bet is on a vote of no confidence. Johnson would become leader in a contest, then Labour would lose, but by around 150 seats, giving them some sort of chance of regrouping by 2015 or so.

]]> By: Patrick Hughes http://thusmagazine.com/2009/06/its-not-over-until-the-fat-man-sings-and-hes-just-cleared-his-throat/comment-page-1/#comment-261 Patrick Hughes Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:50:29 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=3567#comment-261 The dog in the night is Big Ears, Charles Clarke, who said history was history, who is briefing the papers on the condition that they do not mention him, but of course he is the leading plotter. It is amazing that he has not been in the papers for two or three weeks and yet is the leading actor against Brown. The dog in the night is Big Ears, Charles Clarke, who said history was history, who is briefing the papers on the condition that they do not mention him, but of course he is the leading plotter. It is amazing that he has not been in the papers for two or three weeks and yet is the leading actor against Brown.

]]> By: Daniel Taghioff http://thusmagazine.com/2009/06/its-not-over-until-the-fat-man-sings-and-hes-just-cleared-his-throat/comment-page-1/#comment-260 Daniel Taghioff Mon, 08 Jun 2009 03:07:14 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=3567#comment-260 The Tories won't do it willingly, but my bet is on them being forced to act somewhat like a responsible European Government by circumstances. I still wouldn't place bets on the UK being a civilised country for another 10 years or so, we seem to find it very hard to learn from our mistakes. The Tories won’t do it willingly, but my bet is on them being forced to act somewhat like a responsible European Government by circumstances.

I still wouldn’t place bets on the UK being a civilised country for another 10 years or so, we seem to find it very hard to learn from our mistakes.

]]> By: John Kelly http://thusmagazine.com/2009/06/its-not-over-until-the-fat-man-sings-and-hes-just-cleared-his-throat/comment-page-1/#comment-259 John Kelly Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:21:30 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=3567#comment-259 I can't advise for whom you should vote, Ruth and I'm certain that none of the main parties would have me as a candidate (most MPs are really cheesy close up, believe me, and the good ones get marginalised). I think the question is - can you vote for Labour after this hideous abuse of democratic principle and practice. My answer is no, and on those grounds, to make sure they are buried with a stake through the heart, I'm voting Tory, then probably rolling up my sleeves to give the Tories a hard time. Whoever gets in has got to re-establish an economy where we make things and spread the wealth. Unfortunately, Thatcherite Tories - remember, Blair and Brown both admire Thatcher - have no history in this regard. Let's hope Cameron is an old fashioned One Nation Tory who'll give the workers a fair go. What's the chance of that happening? I can’t advise for whom you should vote, Ruth and I’m certain that none of the main parties would have me as a candidate (most MPs are really cheesy close up, believe me, and the good ones get marginalised). I think the question is – can you vote for Labour after this hideous abuse of democratic principle and practice. My answer is no, and on those grounds, to make sure they are buried with a stake through the heart, I’m voting Tory, then probably rolling up my sleeves to give the Tories a hard time. Whoever gets in has got to re-establish an economy where we make things and spread the wealth. Unfortunately, Thatcherite Tories – remember, Blair and Brown both admire Thatcher – have no history in this regard. Let’s hope Cameron is an old fashioned One Nation Tory who’ll give the workers a fair go. What’s the chance of that happening?

]]> By: Ruth Nesbitt http://thusmagazine.com/2009/06/its-not-over-until-the-fat-man-sings-and-hes-just-cleared-his-throat/comment-page-1/#comment-258 Ruth Nesbitt Sun, 07 Jun 2009 20:11:11 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=3567#comment-258 Who the hell do I vote for ? I am apalled by recent events and as you so rightly point out the fault partly lies with the lilly livered MP's who will not stand up for a 'fair' system on expenses and resort to the clandestine 'switching' of second homes - and worse. When are you standing for election John, as my vote is with you. Who the hell do I vote for ? I am apalled by recent events and as you so rightly point out the fault partly lies with the lilly livered MP’s who will not stand up for a ‘fair’ system on expenses and resort to the clandestine ’switching’ of second homes – and worse. When are you standing for election John, as my vote is with you.

]]> By: John Kelly http://thusmagazine.com/2009/06/its-not-over-until-the-fat-man-sings-and-hes-just-cleared-his-throat/comment-page-1/#comment-257 John Kelly Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:05:16 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=3567#comment-257 Thanks for the correction, David. It's also valid to point out that Tessa Jowell and David Mills are allegedly not quite as estranged as some people define the term. John Thanks for the correction, David. It’s also valid to point out that Tessa Jowell and David Mills are allegedly not quite as estranged as some people define the term. John

]]> By: David B. http://thusmagazine.com/2009/06/its-not-over-until-the-fat-man-sings-and-hes-just-cleared-his-throat/comment-page-1/#comment-256 David B. Sun, 07 Jun 2009 18:53:08 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=3567#comment-256 Not sure wily David Mills is actually serving in an Italian jail. More like 'sentenced to 4.5 years, but like his slimy client Mr B., playing the Italian judicial 'system' and still at liberty'...? Not sure wily David Mills is actually serving in an Italian jail. More like ’sentenced to 4.5 years, but like his slimy client Mr B., playing the Italian judicial ’system’ and still at liberty’…?

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