Comments on: Why you should choose your ISP with care – correction to my earlier piece http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/ because it does not have to be that way Tue, 17 May 2011 10:42:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: THUS - because it does not have to be that way http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/comment-page-1/#comment-91 THUS - because it does not have to be that way Sat, 08 Aug 2009 17:31:04 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=1285#comment-91 [...] is accessing content, when and for how long, and profiling can even determine precise demographics (Thus passim).  While unsophisticated advertisers may buy page impressions in the same way as old timey direct [...] [...] is accessing content, when and for how long, and profiling can even determine precise demographics (Thus passim).  While unsophisticated advertisers may buy page impressions in the same way as old timey direct [...]

]]> By: THUS - because it does not have to be that way http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/comment-page-1/#comment-90 THUS - because it does not have to be that way Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:43:15 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=1285#comment-90 [...] Net reported that Delaware-registered adware company Phorm (THUS passim) has lost its UK CEO, Hugo Drayton, who leaves the company ‘by mutual agreement’ at the [...] [...] Net reported that Delaware-registered adware company Phorm (THUS passim) has lost its UK CEO, Hugo Drayton, who leaves the company ‘by mutual agreement’ at the [...]

]]> By: Paul http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Paul Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:28:35 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=1285#comment-89 D'oh - *Many wonderful things, not *money... Whilst the share price of Phorm has shed masses of its earlier value this year, money is still something Kent & Co seem to have plenty of. D’oh – *Many wonderful things, not *money… Whilst the share price of Phorm has shed masses of its earlier value this year, money is still something Kent & Co seem to have plenty of.

]]> By: Paul http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Paul Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:24:55 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=1285#comment-88 Nice one John. If only ALL the writers in the blogosphere and the journo's in the print world would do the right thing and revisit their first writings on this issue! On the face of it Phorm and Webwise seems no more of an issue than Google and whilst I agre with your point about what Google does do, it is indeed a very different beast; but the fact remains that most of us get something we like from Google. I have not met, nor read the views of, a single person who understands how Phorm and Webwise work and likes the idea of it. Come to think of it, not one person who would gift away to Phorm on the basis of some anti-phishing promise (a promise which we know is a little thin when one reads the updated Ts & Cs of BT Retail/British Telecom when a customer accepts 'Invitation' to be Phormed and have Webwise snoop on all their online activities). "We can see the entire internet," I think is what Kent Ertugrul said... one of money wonderful strings of words Kent has spoken since he bumbled through the launch of his latest awful product. Nice one John. If only ALL the writers in the blogosphere and the journo’s in the print world would do the right thing and revisit their first writings on this issue! On the face of it Phorm and Webwise seems no more of an issue than Google and whilst I agre with your point about what Google does do, it is indeed a very different beast; but the fact remains that most of us get something we like from Google. I have not met, nor read the views of, a single person who understands how Phorm and Webwise work and likes the idea of it. Come to think of it, not one person who would gift away to Phorm on the basis of some anti-phishing promise (a promise which we know is a little thin when one reads the updated Ts & Cs of BT Retail/British Telecom when a customer accepts ‘Invitation’ to be Phormed and have Webwise snoop on all their online activities). “We can see the entire internet,” I think is what Kent Ertugrul said… one of money wonderful strings of words Kent has spoken since he bumbled through the launch of his latest awful product.

]]> By: John Kelly http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/comment-page-1/#comment-87 John Kelly Sat, 13 Dec 2008 10:15:41 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=1285#comment-87 Dear Alexander Thanks for your comment. THUS is more than sceptical about identity cards and all their derivatives. If you would like to contribute posts on this subject, I'd be delighted. I'm trying to stay non-partisan in tone, because I think this works better. It's a vicious paradox that we are far from alone in worrying about the way that our liberties and options are becoming eroded in the name of 'deregulation.' The media long ago became the message - I trace it to Stalin's Russia, Nazi Germany and Proctor and Gamble USA. Aldous Huxley predicted its effects long before Marshall McLuhan. I'm going to write an essay on the need to understand the pernicious effects of 'digital suggestion' (my phrase), a highly pervasive form of auto-suggestion, enacted on a global scale by idiots who believe in Mammon but don't understand that the ancients understood he was a false and dangerous 'god'. Meanwhile, send in your thoughts and criticisms. THUS has no other agenda than to try to present an unadorned view of the way things are and the way they might be if we stopped to listen to the sound of the wind in the trees and the murmur of the crowd from time to time. Technology is good - look, we're having a laugh using it here - but Stanislav Lem and William Gibson merit re-reading from time to time. Dear Alexander

Thanks for your comment. THUS is more than sceptical about identity cards and all their derivatives. If you would like to contribute posts on this subject, I’d be delighted. I’m trying to stay non-partisan in tone, because I think this works better. It’s a vicious paradox that we are far from alone in worrying about the way that our liberties and options are becoming eroded in the name of ‘deregulation.’ The media long ago became the message – I trace it to Stalin’s Russia, Nazi Germany and Proctor and Gamble USA. Aldous Huxley predicted its effects long before Marshall McLuhan.

I’m going to write an essay on the need to understand the pernicious effects of ‘digital suggestion’ (my phrase), a highly pervasive form of auto-suggestion, enacted on a global scale by idiots who believe in Mammon but don’t understand that the ancients understood he was a false and dangerous ‘god’.

Meanwhile, send in your thoughts and criticisms. THUS has no other agenda than to try to present an unadorned view of the way things are and the way they might be if we stopped to listen to the sound of the wind in the trees and the murmur of the crowd from time to time. Technology is good – look, we’re having a laugh using it here – but Stanislav Lem and William Gibson merit re-reading from time to time.

]]> By: Alexander Hanff http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/comment-page-1/#comment-86 Alexander Hanff Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:45:43 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=1285#comment-86 Hi John, I just wanted to thank you for revisiting the issue and taking onboard the comments on your previous article. If you would like to discuss Phorm some more then please feel free to contact me. Alexander Hanff Hi John,

I just wanted to thank you for revisiting the issue and taking onboard the comments on your previous article. If you would like to discuss Phorm some more then please feel free to contact me.

Alexander Hanff

]]> By: P http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/comment-page-1/#comment-85 P Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:01:59 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=1285#comment-85 Thank you for taking the time to re-examine the issue and post your thoughts. Thank you for taking the time to re-examine the issue and post your thoughts.

]]> By: revrob http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/comment-page-1/#comment-84 revrob Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:27:16 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=1285#comment-84 Thanks for updating the article. Well done. If only our legislators and regulators were so ready to listen. thanks again. Thanks for updating the article. Well done. If only our legislators and regulators were so ready to listen. thanks again.

]]> By: Mark http://thusmagazine.com/2008/12/why-you-should-choose-your-isp-with-care-correction-to-my-earlier-piece/comment-page-1/#comment-83 Mark Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:39:18 +0000 http://thusmagazine.com/?p=1285#comment-83 John Well done for taking on board the comments and revisiting this issue. Good journalism. When people really understand what the likes of BT with their webwise system are up to, there does tend to be a universal disgust expressed regarding the idea. Many thanks. John

Well done for taking on board the comments and revisiting this issue.

Good journalism.

When people really understand what the likes of BT with their webwise system are up to, there does tend to be a universal disgust expressed regarding the idea.

Many thanks.

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